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    2005 Agent Survey - Equity Indexed Annuities

    We had heard that NAFA, some marketing companies, and others had stated that equity indexed returns "are irrelevant". Did the surveyed agents agree or disagree?

    MCP Premium sent out email invitations to non-customers who had requested information about our software during the past year, to gauge their feelings on the issue of FIA returns and the support given by their associated marketing organizations. Of the email invitations that were read, more than 10% decided to participate. The results of this 2005 survey are displayed below.

    See the 2006 Survey Results


    Q: When presenting an EIA, how important is the potential rate of return to your client?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


    Q: Do you feel you can always trust the FIA product advice given by your FMO or marketing group?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


    Q: How strongly do you agree with this statement: 'Returns are just as important as Company Rating'?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


    Q: When presenting an EIA, these things are most important to you (select all that apply):

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


    Q: Are you satisfied with the quality of EIA research tools that your FMO or Marketing Group provides?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Q: Do you have any final comments or questions about EIA returns that you'd like to share with us?

    Not all survey respondents chose to offer comments, but you can read below the thoughts of those who did.

     

    A floor or min guarantee impresses prospects.
    Annuity companies try to confuse issues and seems difficult for companies to KISS...keep it simple.....thanks, Bob
    -Being,
    Companies should be required to promote and implement cost free 1035 exchanges to existing clients as they make changes to existing contracts and/or initiate new products. This way the clients can always be assured they are in the best contract for them at the time and provides  reduced chances of remaining in an inferior contract. Also, Insurance companies are assured that they will keep the assets under management longer.
    EIA are IMPOSSIBLE for a client to understand in any meaningful way and the ones I have seen seem purposely designed to seriously mislead the client about what he should expect for returns.  I refuse to sell EIA products, and the only times I have lost business to an EIA is when the agent was clearly lying to my client.
    EIAs are generally over-rated. There'll be more and more dissatisfied clients if the market trend isn't upward and that is not a good bet in the next decade. Traditional fixed annuities are much more sensible in planning a retirement portfolio where assurances of protecting assets are needed. In other words, there indeed is a serious question of whether EIAs should be approached in the same way as securities, because even though there is no downside, there may be no upside either and this is NOT how most EIAs are being presented. Personally, I am re-evaluating whether to include them in planning for most people, especially seniors.
    EIA's are suitable for many, but not all clients. Agents must understand and carefully explain all the features.
    EIAs have been mismarketed, which is why the NASD, the SEC and other regulatory authorities are scrutinizing these contracts. The lack of uniform disclosure is terrible, and things will only get worse unless the industry develops strong self-policing mechanisms.
    EIA's should be presented as a 'safe money' alternative to both mutual funds on the higher risk side, and CD's on the lower risk side. Too many advisors it seems are presenting EIA's as a mutual fund clone with no downside risk. This will only invite more scrutiny (and then rules and regulations) from the State or Federal government. I tell EIA clients that if they expect 5% from their CD's and 10% from their mutual funds, then expect 7 to 8% from their EIA's. My 10 year history with the product has validated this kind of performance expectation. And of course, the advisor needs to be selective since all EIA's are not equal just like all mutual funds are not equal. Helping clients make those selections and allocations is how we as advisors add our value.
    Emphasis should be placed on safety of principal, not ROR.
    Everything moves in cycles: It's time will come again following the next crash or the next deflationary slide.  EIA has it's place for older, risk adverse clients.
    GOOD EIAs are an important financial tool.  They play an important part in many of my client portfolios.  We are at the early stages of a prolonged bear market for fixed income here in the U.S.  As such, finding safe and secure fixed income like products with acceptable potential for yield/growth is important.  A well designed EIA seems to fit the bill perfectly.  However, most EIAs, like most mutual funds and most financial advisors -----!!! [expletive edited].  They can't beat averages, they offer up inconsistent performance and they charge exorbitant fees and commissions for the privilege.  That said I spend a great deal of time doing my own due diligence on any financial product or strategy. My real concern with EIAs-- and this has been the crux of the NASD/SEC review -- is that most EIAs are being sold by incompetent Life Insurance salesman who use these products almost exclusively.  Because they lack knowledge (or maybe moral fiber) they are tearing up the avenue behind them; they are ruining this product for the rest of us who actually know what we are doing and understand that an EIA can not solve all the problems that ail you.  Of course the NASD and SEC are getting annoyed; near $30 Billion in sales this year alone.  No due diligence.  No oversight.  No professional licensing.  The NASD and SEC are being forced into action because insurance companies are not overseeing the sales of their own product.  If they were û the NASD and SEC would be silenced.  My firm has gone so far as to simply ban the sale of any EIA until further notice.  Well done fellas.  Thanks!
    good product if sold right and the potential is not oversold
    I am not sure I am comfortable with EIA's.
    I attended a educational seminar presented by a large financial brokerage firm that was going to reveal the in's & out's (the working part's of EIA's).  What was presented was a seminar on how to defeat EIA's by comparing them with VA's & performance! EIA's are a fixed annuity & can be used in the right situations to provide more income than other fixed investments. They are not intended to compete with the performance of variable annuities & other variable investments. In stead of comparing apples to oranges, why don't they improve their products and not offer benefit guarantees that cost more in additional fees then they actually provide in benefit to the client.
    I currently do not recommend EIAs nad will not until the caps/participation rates increase and commissions decrease so that thye are a better deal for clients.
    I do not use any particular FMO as the product(s) I currently use the most often are Lafeyette Life and ING
    I feel very strongly that the EIA product is well suited for the ultra conservative investor, i.e. the fixed annuity/CD investor. This may extend to the investor who then wants just a bit of a gamble without the risk of loss of principal. That said, EIA's are a wonderful tool, as are so many financial products, if used correctly.
    I find that many FMOs and.or brokers will push an EIA becaus eof te comission ratrher than what it will do for the consumer.  That bothers me.
    I just wish that the NASD would leave this product alone!
    I know now that not all EIA's are created equal and many of the marketing organizations don't care to let you know that.
    I like MCP.  I wish you included more annuities and historical, hypothetical returns.
    I need EIA with 100% participation, bonus of 10% and no cap and less margins.
    I need then NASD to recall 05-50 because my broker Raymond James is trying to make us do this business inhouse on Jan 1st, and they don't like most of the EIA's including Allianz, and don't have any strategy to build my business.
    I prefer having multiple interest crediting formulas within the EIA
    I see many EIA being mis-represented by agents.  The whole story is not told to the client.  Probably, because the agent themselves do not understand how a EIA works.  The other thing I see, is agents that are not security licensed, telling clients to liquidate thier Mutual funds or Vasriable Annuities, this is a violation of NASD/SEC rules, but the don't seem to care and the FMO's & Marketing Companies are playing done this area.  On some of the material/brochures I have seen, the FMO's or Marketing Groups play up the tax advantages of the EIA without telling the clients that a fixed or varialbe annuity has the same tax advantage.  I think there is a lack of disclosures that will come back and bit the producer and possible the FMO's & Marketing Groups
    I think that these questions are slanted to make EIA's look better than they are. I think that the issue at hand is not simply the performance of EIA's but rather, the rampant mis-use , predatory tactics, and misrepresentation that many agents are using in the market.
    I want to know which contract best suit the client.
    I would really like to see demo software - I have looked into purchasing your software - however, I always like to test drive a car before I buy it.  I would consider allowing prospects test your software for 14 day or so to see if it meets their individual needs --- remember benefits sell --- feature and advantage only spark interest -- I am interested but not compelled to buy your software until I can try it.
    In a year when the index goes through the roof and the client hit his cap, the company should share the windfall and credit more interest to that pot based on the huge upward spike of that index.  This is one of the negative things I hear from clients about EIA's.  They love the fact that it will not go down in a down market, but they resent the idea of getting 7-9% when the index they are in goes up 15-20%.  They look at this as the companies being big profit taking pigs.
    It is NOT a security! It is NOT complicated.  If Ins. Co.s & reps wd just tell the truth, none of the hoopla that exists w/NASD would exist.  Hey, how 'bout full disclosure on bank CD's?
    It;s a fixed annuity, nothing more, nothing less.
    Just concerned about the NASD inquiry and how it will affect the industry.
    keep the good ideas coming
    Like Variable annuities it is difficult to determine how well companys perform over a time period.
    Many EIA's have so many moving parts that what we explain today may not be true in the years before maturity.
    Most FMO's have no clue as to the potential returns of EIA's and mislead advisors in their recommendations. This comes from 'lack' of knowledge AND 'lack' of reseach..
    Most produce a fraction of the index return and are not nearly as good an investment as the sales material would lead you to believe
    not all EIAs are created equal 
    Not really, however I'm glad that EIA's are being looked at by the SEC/NASD. Maybe it will finally cut down on the deceptions and 'one-size fits all' sales approach used by the insurance industry and its sales people to bilk seniors into converting their life savings into agents commissions!
    Offer peace of mind and guarantees not rate and term.
    Our clients only want to know that they will never lose another dollar.
    our compliance dept is really uncomfortable with us selling these now with the SEC looking at them.  We do need better comparisons on what we are selling and the returns vs the index it is tied to.
    returns are only part of the picture - caps are important too.  My customers like the EIA concept but would like to have better performance in strong markets.  If we get a 30% market and they are capped at 8% I'm going to have a disgruntled customer.
    Returns are secondary when used properly.  Preservation of principle is primary.  These retirees may not have time left to recover losses in their principle.  Running out of money is of great concern to most of them!!!
    Returns are useful if properly illustrated.  The comparisons with actual index returns does not show the actual returns of the indices less the impact of dividends.  As a result comparasions are not really accurate. These are great products if sold to fulfill clients' objectives.
    SIMPLIFY AND DO NOT MAKE PRODUCT TO CHEAT CLIENTS.NO IF'S AND BUTS. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE PREFER CD'S.
    Some companies show illustration of historic returns useing 'hypothetical' s&P values only. Seems to me they should also use 'actual' S&P values along with the hypothetical values.
    the crediting rate is by far the most important facet of an EIA.  No one, not issuers, advisors or marketing groups, provides enough detail on how these methods work.  When looking at historical returns, there are HUGE differences in the actual EIA returns based on the crediting method used.  because of the lack of information, I am forced to do my own analysis to figure out which method works best in different market environments.
    The rate needs to be higher than a bank C D.
    we should return to 'true' fixed annuities and forget these products. If I had a good 5% fixed annuity I could sell the heck out of them.
    While the FMO's I use are in general good at what they do, it doesn't seem realistic to me to expect them to be unbiased in their recommendations since they have to satisfy so many carriers with varying product portfolios as well as so many agents with different personal agendas. In particular, I will not use any FMO that is even partially owned by Allianz. I have found that I can dismiss the vast majority of indexed products on the market today because of excessive surrender charge periods and the surrender charge percentages themselves. I think anything beyond 10 years is almost certainly to be to the detriment of the client
    wish it were easier to get accurate information on how a specific EIA (I like to just call them Indexed Annuities and leave equity out of it) would perform under different types of market conditions
    With all the potential moving parts(i.e., guarantee on 87.5% of total premium, current cap, and minimum cap, participation rate, etc) on a EIA it's very difficult to assess which product offers the best guarantee and potential return to a client, and what is likely to actually occur.
    Yes. It took a 10 credit continuing education course on line to get me up to speed really on EIA's. And that material was pretty difficult. Most of the materials I have seen make it very difficult for the client to understand what's really going on in an EIA.
    You should have a 'somewhat agree/disagree' in question 3.  Ratings are important, but a lot of good returns come from companies that are B+ or B++ that are stable companies.
    your software is very helpful.

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